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Crabber’s Knot — 5 Comments

  1. Having watched many of your videos (but not having learned all that much, owing to previous knowledge), one thing has driven me crazy, or almost, especially given the fact that you are at least aware of the IGKT. You continually refer to the standing “PART” as the standing “END”! Why can’t you get it right?

    • Now that you have shown me the error of my ways, I can make changes going ahead. Thanks for taking the time to view and also make a comment, very much appreciated.

      • >>”part” instead of “standing end” … why can’t you get it *right*?

        “Right” by whose judgement? For me, it is “SPart”, which is readily seend to originate with the term objected to above, though spelled in this unusual form so as to point to a different/fuller sense : i.e., that of the part of a *completed* knot –a part bearing full tension into the knot (there is one SPart for eye knots, two for ends joints, one for a hitch –in the basic/common cases of such knots).
        Btw, in tying knots, one is more likely dealing with a standing *part* of a rope and not its *end* (as in “tail end” –please, NOT “bitter end”!); in contrast to the reeving often done with the working END –point first!

        So, here’s a big “STET” to the above editing comment.

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  3. Now, to the supposed purpose/use of this “Crabber’s Eye Knot”, it’s something that has been a focus of my attention of late. The name seems to originate with Lancelot Llewellyn HasLOPE’s 1891/2 Work (periodical) article on knots; this series was captured mostly verbatim into Paul Nooncree HasLUCK’s 1904/5… book Knots & Splices (IIRC title). And there is some mysterious other “Haslope” source echoing the LLHaslope articles fairly well, which I surmise if by his son, Pearce L. H. in 1901 –as noted (just though as “H.”) in HNG Bushby’s amazing Notes on Knots manuscript.

    The knot is given in the French Traite’ de Charpenterie (sp?) which chapter on knots was captured and put into English under the pseudonym “Tom Bowling”.
    The knot there is a noose –no hint of tricks to fix an eye in it. And, IMO, if I want some adjustable eye, I’d use a rolling hitch of tail to SPart, not hope for an adequately stable hard-bent SPart (which looks to be rather unkind to the rope if sharp; otherwise, of dubious holding if not).

    Ditto for the “Capstan knot”. CLDay I think is one who suggests that this knot might even be capsized into Ashley’s #1034 eye knot (!) –something that will happen only with considerable coaxing & preparation, not naturally for a knot dressed & set as shown. I’ve seen trawler mooring lines with eye knots having their SPart in the gradual helical form given for the Capstan Knot, so I can imagine that that is just what is intended (though in the case of those trawler lines, there is some capsizing/distorting going on, as well –i.p., Bowlines capsizing nearly into what could be called a “pile-hitch noose” !).

    .:. Knotting has been recorded pretty badly –sometimes appallingly so. For the most part, *general-knots* book authors copy prior ones. Actual knots users don’t get much play in the literature.

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